…well there you go
An End To Podcasting As We Know It At Simply Syndicated?
I would like to start this post with an apology. I did that thing where you write a question as a head line just to make people panic a bit and then click on a link. I know that you saw “An End To Podcasting As We Know It At Simply Syndicated?” and then came to this story under the impression that we might be stopping podcasting or something. We aren’t, at least not that I know of. That said I’m here to talk to you about an end to podcasting as we know it at Simply Syndicated so I don’t feel too bad about the head line.
Just short of five years ago we started making Movies You Should See. It was a very different set up in those days I can tell you. There were certainly fewer podcasts around. It seems like there are just so many these days. When we started we didn’t really know what was going to happen or what the future would hold. We just knew that we were making this show every week and people were listening to it. It wasn’t long before other shows started. Make It So was next I think, then The Bollocks Show, it’s all a bit of a blur after that. As all of this was going on we still didn’t know what was going to happen in the future so we kept on making all these shows week after week, for what was beginning to feel like forever.
Of all the shows that Simply Syndicated have ever produced only two have had an official last episode. Some have faded away to nothing for various reasons, but very few of them come to an end. We just make them week in week out, FOR EVER. Are you beginning to see a problem here? It’s time to get realistic and start thinking about the future. Are we really going to make Movies You Should See or The Definitive Word for ever? Of course not, that’s a ridiculous thing to suggest. We took a break from doing Make It So for a while, but we came back a bit more ready to do the show. Obviously we could be tighter but hey, if it was a problem you wouldn’t be listening. The point is that the break did us good (as is this break we seem to be in at the moment due to various logistical problems).
It’s not just us that could do with a break sometimes, it’s listeners too. From a listeners point of view I can see two problems:
1. There aren’t many good new podcasts
2. You’re getting bored of the same shows you’ve been listening to for years
To answer these questions on at a time:
1. It really is a problem that there isn’t a good way to find good shows. Just like anything in the world 98% of podcasts are terrible and a waste of time. That isn’t to say that these shows don’t have a right to exist, it’s just that we could do with a way of wading through them. Luckily there are a few ways of finding good shows. Generally you can assume that shows made by people who make other shows you like will be good for you. If you like Movies You Should See there’s a good chance that you’ll like at least one of the other shows we make. So if you check out iTunes’ Featured Provider section you’ll find some good stuff. But here’s the problem. The people who make all those good shows that have been running for years are all tied up making those shows. The selection of good shows made by good networks hasn’t really changed much for the last few years. We have limited time and resources and we put them into making the same shows week after week for years.
2. Of course you’re bored. Why wouldn’t you be. I mean, I love Star Trek but the thought of watching it week after week for the rest of my life doesn’t sound like too much fun. It’s a big iPod you’ve got there and it would be nice to fill it with a variety of stuff. As podcasters we’ve done our best to give you a shows on a wide range of topics. But it’s not like we’re covering everything and besides, wouldn’t it be nice to mix it up a bit? Can’t do that though, we’re busy making Movies You Should See.
I think it’s clear we all have a problem. We’re all kind of podfading. You want new stuff that we aren’t catering for. We sometimes struggle to go on making stuff. Let’s face it, there isn’t much in the way of excitement in podcasting any more. It isn’t even really podcasting, it’s online media. I feel like we’ve all settled into a rutt, and I’m including every other network in that too.
With all that in mind we can agree that this wouldn’t be much of a blog post if I didn’t propose some sort of solution to the problem. I want to rock the boat a bit and do something different. Something to bring back the excitement back. It’s important to note that it has to be done with the same resources that we’ve got now and it can’t come with too much of a work load increase.
My solution is this. We make shows in series, or seasons depending on how you want to look at it. Rather than make Movies You Should See every week for ever, we do a 24 week run and then take a break with a Christmas Special in the middle. Something like that. Then, when we’re not making Movies You Should See, we make something else. I’m not talking about reducing the amount of production, I’m talking about frequently changing what that production is.
Just think about some of the advantages this brings. We don’t get bored making the same thing seemingly for ever. We have a finite number of shows to produce so we can carefully plan and prepare for each one. We can make arrangements for things in advance. You get a far better variety of shows to listen to. We get the opportunity to sell old seasons of our shows too. When you think about it, it’s the TV model of production. Make a season, have some time off while you make something else, release the DVD, then come back for the next season.
It also gives us the opportunity to assess if a show should come back for a new season. That way we won’t have things drag on like The Bollocks Show did. If I ever had to decided whether or not to renew it for another series it would have ended a year or two ago.
Now I’m not saying that this is going to happen to every show we make tomorrow. I’m just presenting to you as an idea, a plan for the near future. Of course it wouldn’t suit all shows, SHaFT for example is far more of a radio style show and can run week after week. Also I’m only talking about shows that Simply Syndicated produces in house. It’s not for me to dictate how other people should run their shows.
I’d really like to know what you all think. The way I feel right now indicates this is probably going to happen unless there’s great outcry at the idea. If you want to say something, now is the time.
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about 1 month ago
THis sounds like a good idea! Keep everything fresh!
about 1 month ago
It sounds like this is something that has been niggling at you for a bit. I think the priority has to be the quality of the shows and if you think that podcasting in seasons would ensure higher quality then I think it’s a no-brainer decision. It’s always good to know that you’re constantly thinking of ways to make sure Simply Syndicated’s content remains strong.
about 1 month ago
I can say that I am in no way bored of the content you are putting out on Simply Syndicated. Some shows are not my cup of tea but I just choose not to listen to them.
If you want to go in a new direction I will be happy as long as new content keeps showing up on my Simply Syndicated feed in iTunes.
about 1 month ago
I think it’s a great idea. A structured episode schedule also allows consumers to have a break. It’s easier to get excited about new episodes after a reasonable break, because one tends to only remember the good things they experienced during the previous run. This can provide a nice momentum moving into the new batch of episodes.
Perhaps you could have the Christmas special be a Dr. Who MYSS special. Yeah, that’s more of a “TV You Should See”, but surely it’s not that big of a stretch.
-Sean
about 1 month ago
We’ve come to a similar realization at the Starbase. While we won’t be doing different shows, we do plan to build in some down time next year, so I’m all for this idea.
about 1 month ago
Sounds like a great idea to me, especially if it keep the shows fresher and more interesting. Sometimes the best thing you can do is take a break. Having the ability to step back and evaluate a show, and perhaps kill it will mean you can make more objective decisions about the direction a show should take. You’ll also, I expect, open up space for the energy and ideas necessary to make new shows or better content for shows that already exist. I like it.
about 1 month ago
This sounds like a great idea! Do any other networks do this?
I always view Simply Syndicated as breaking podcasting boundaries, in little ways. Keep it up!
about 1 month ago
I think it’s a great idea. I feel I naturally get bored of a podcast every so often and stop listening for a while and pick it up later on, I never seem to get caught up with every episode. Every podcast I listen to bar two is on the SS network so I have no problem with the shows themselves, but I think that taking more of a tv seasons approach would defiantly help keep the shows fresh and fun to listen to.
about 1 month ago
Yeah, a little down time would be a good idea. Though I’m not sure how I’d keep my ego constantly refueled without weekly download stats.
about 1 month ago
Yeah, we’ve always done this, it’s nice, although this current season has been way longer than the rest. We’re about to take a few weeks off ourselves.
about 1 month ago
I almost do this myself – I stop listening to a podcast for a few weeks and then pick it up again so it doesn’t get tired. Seems it’s not just me who has that problem then.
It’d be awesome if you could figure out how there would always been a few podcasts running though, in around the same field, for example, SB66 running when MIS is in downtime and vice versa. But that could get a bit too complicated.
about 1 month ago
I think it’s a sound idea. Except for news shows, there aren’t many on TV or radio that go on on end. The routine might have listeners hook off. Also, you get either filler shows or skipping weeks at unexpected intervals with everybody including the podcasters wondering when it comes back.
Also, breaks give you a means to advertise shows in another way then ‘next week, we’re back again. I’m not entirly sure about SHaFT, which is a different animal. Yet, you should consider breaks there as well.
All in all, I think it’s a perfect idea and possibly groundbreaking in podcasting where ‘every week’ has become the rule that must not be questioned. So many shows pride themselves on it.
I think you should do it ASAP and jump ahead of the rest of podcastland. It is brilliant and obvious if you think about it. Some aspects of old media aren’t half bad.
I’m also thinking these breaks could generate excitement for when a show starts again. These breaks don’t have to follow TV type schedules either. In the breaks you could do specials etc.
about 4 weeks ago
I understand what you’re saying; it amazes me that you guys at Simply Syndicated could do this the way that you do it.
All I really want to say is that..I never get bored of your shows.
Instead of listening to music on my ipod, you know what I do?
I listen to Make It So.
I started listening to Make it So before I had seen a single episode of ANY Star Trek (haha, I HAD seen for seasons of Voyager, but I know better now, thanks to you guys)
Honestly, though, I’ve listened to at least 70 episodes over 5 times…
And I religiously download the new episodes, on to 118, and I just…
I CAN’T GET ENOUGH.
I just listen to it ALL the time.
Maybe I’m crazy?
I’ve also heard every Bollocks show, but those are kind of difficult to re-listen to.
I also recently started downloading The Definitive Word, and I am also LOVING it.
I’m working on buying all of the MYSS years in order to start with that, as well.
I just…
I love your podcasts,
I LOVE THEM.
I border on obsessed, I just…
I guess what I’m trying to say is that no other podcasts can satisfy me and obsess me the way that the SS ones do.
Over the course of all of this, I’ve realized something…
Something that I feel you should know, but something that you probably, and hopefully, already know;
Your podcasting network already IS radically different from all others, I don’t think ANYONE that listens could ever get bored.
The way that you do your shows, the ‘off-topic’ approach, the digressions, everything…
It’s just so different from everything else I’ve heard.
I feel as if I KNEW you, Rich, and Allison, and Mike, and Will, and Paddy, and Craig, etc.
Listening to the show is like talking with good friends, or at least listening to a good talk with friends.
The way that long time listeners are rewarded when they’ve been sticking around long enough to understand the inside jokes (‘The Sex Vulture’, Risa Nights, how you feel about the Enterprise theme, ‘on-topic’, Dave from the brig, Wendy, etc.)
Your shows produced ‘in house’ give the audience something that they were not expecting, and don’t want to ever part with.
THAT’S why your fans are so loyal, and THAT’S why everyone, including me, will support you in everything that you do.
If the scheduled idea is what you guys think is the best plan of action for everybody, then BY GOD, get on with it.
<3
about 3 weeks ago
I think having seasons is a good idea. I try to listen to a number of your shows (and others) and sometimes it’s hard to keep up with everything, so I hold them and listen in batches as others have mentioned. But I also feel that if you had more prep time, esp. for Movies You Should See’s “Specials” the shows would be even better. At any rate, I love your podcasts and thank you for the excellent work that you do!
about 1 week ago
I love your shows, I have never met you or spoke to you personally, but like many others out there I feel like I am part of a family. That is the real reason that I continue to listen to many shows on the network.
As a long term listener I also see the problems you face about keeping the content fresh, the time I realise this most is when a new show comes onto the network. When a new show comes on and is a success I feel like I felt when I listened to Simply Syndicated for the first time (Episode one of SHAFT). This happened recently with Crimes against food one of my new faves so well done girls for that one.
Here are my thoughts and suggestions,
-Simply Syndicated is like pod cast crack. When there are gaps in content I wander round like a lost sheep and have to listen to Geek Nights.
-Series of shows is a great idea but don’t make us wait to long in between people do have there favourites.
-Why limit topics so much, if your gonna do series then you can do loads of topics, not just movies and tec. Id love to see some sort of weekly news round up for example, how about revisiting Weekend watches and doing some tv stuff. What about a short series about camping equipment.
-I really miss Bollocks, I love hearing you (Richard) rant about stuff like the post office and the neighbours.
-SHAFT is my favourite show however I find that recently the phone in callers are always the same people, of course I love them all but they are often the same week on week.
-You need revenue but I feel that making one of your best shows paid only will lead to its decline. Why not make regular specials and charge for them. Or make random shows chargeable so you have to buy one every now and again to keep up. That way those who cant afford it still get to listen to most of all the shows and those that can afford it will buy all the shows.
-The more products you have on offer the more people will buy.
-More ranting……Bring back Bollocks I love it.
Any way ill shut up now, I love the network and want to see it grow and develop away from the mainstream and commercial, I love all the podcasters and all the listeners (probably).
keep it up, keep it open, Keep it real
If you make it we will listen and maybe get our wallets out too,
I listen to and love every episode of,
MYSS
SHAFT
Crimes against food
Bollocks
Games you should play
Make it so
Definitive word
Got to go buy a Chicken now, bank hoilday rush and all…
Peace everyone.